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Xanax 
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Posted: 2009-05-15, 15:51   

You are on the right track. You have made all conversions in the way you should and the word you have got is one of those you are looking for. Now just try to make rest of numbers into letters that are spelling something. And don't touch symbols.
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Posted: 2009-05-15, 16:52   

Thanks for the quick answer. ;)

So it's the last word that's messed up.. I've tried two different ways of translation, one gives ***** which feels like it's correct, but misspelled or grammatically incorrect. If I do the same way as I did to get ***, I just get B****H**. That one doesn't make any sense to me. :p

I'll look over my work again and see if maybe I've gotten the wrong character somewhere. :oops:

*EDIT* Oops my last post was kinda bad. :(
 
     
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Posted: 2009-05-15, 17:52   

karake wrote:
B****H**

you get something more... ;)

first word, i think, is OK, so your method is OK also. Just mess with the second one, when you see a... "string" - follow it.

karake wrote:
*EDIT* Oops my last post was kinda bad. :(

don't worry, it's ok. everything that is bad in here is appreciated.
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Posted: 2009-05-21, 21:46   

Took a while for us to understand the grammar thingy, but now we're done! ;) -> 21
 
     
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Posted: 2009-09-02, 23:07   

:twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :?: :?: :idea: :?: :idea: :?:

I'm so tired, hate this level....20a was so nice and easy...but 20b is my enemy
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Posted: 2009-09-06, 15:58   

Well, I've done it, but here's a question... are there ANY clues whatsoever about the change in method when you decode the second word?

If no... it's just stupid. The reason I've got it at all was simply because I've already tried everything else.

Nonetheless, 21...
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Posted: 2009-09-06, 18:38   

There are none (as far as I know), but that is what makes this level a great deal of fun (at least for me). :)
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Posted: 2009-09-06, 19:08   

Well, I think there should've been at least some kind of clue, no matter how obscure. Oh well, guess I'll just agree to disagree. Everyone has their own opinions anyway, I just didn't like that step as much as the other levels...
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Posted: 2009-09-07, 01:09   

i take that as a compliment
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Posted: 2009-09-08, 03:54   

I cant seem to convert the numbers in the middle of the two circles into anything on 20a. I cant seem to convert them using b_____, and I dont understand 123 ABC. I also dont understand the last part of the source clue. I am very stuck.
 
     
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Posted: 2009-09-08, 06:34   

There's more than one conversion required...
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Posted: 2009-09-08, 21:51   

Thats what I dont understand! What do I convert first?
 
     
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Posted: 2009-09-08, 23:02   

You convert the number in the center through TWO conversions.

20a: 123, then ABC.
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Posted: 2009-09-12, 08:39   

Stuck on 20b.
i've got something to do with b** something, im guessing the second word should be h******e, but that was just a random guess, and it doesn't seem correct. However, it DOES fit with the first word i guess. help?
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Posted: 2009-09-12, 10:30   

you guessed the second word wrong
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Posted: 2009-09-12, 11:39   

Oh, so b** is right? Any help for how to get the second word?
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Posted: 2009-09-12, 11:43   

at least first letter is right :P well, group the letters until they make sense, you know what it's about, no tricks here.
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Posted: 2009-09-12, 13:16   

damn, now I'm doubting my answer for the 1st word :P
i should have 12 letters yes?
hmm kinda cryptic. i know what they are?? i shall give it a try for a while, see what happens.
thanks btw
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Posted: 2009-10-21, 20:45   

I'm stuck on 20b (three purple circles).

I've got the 1s and 0s from the center and coverted that into "ABC", but it gives me ---

I then converted those into "123" just fine... I hope. :|

I have tried every possible way of converting "123" back into "ABC". Obviously, if I do the previous step backwards I will end up with "---" again, so that can't be the right move.

Previous hints in this thread say the last part is to convert 123 back into ABC "using the simplest way possible" like in 20a, but the outcome is just gibberish

I even tried matching up the "123"s with a Chemistry Periodic Table, but that didn't work either.

What am I missing? What do I need to do to complete the conversion?

Any help (thread post or PM) is appreciated. This puzzle is driving me mad.
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Posted: 2009-10-21, 21:00   

"---" is ok. That means you've done everything right. Do a step backwards to "123" and try to make sense out of those numbers.
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Posted: 2009-10-21, 21:16   

Xanax wrote:
"---" is ok. That means you've done everything right.


Phew, thanks! At least I know that step was correct now.

Xanax wrote:
Do a step backwards to "123" and try to make sense out of those numbers.


I've done the step 'backwards' to 123 already, but how to get letters from those numbers is what completely eludes me.
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Posted: 2009-10-21, 21:44   

What you should do is kinda similar to distributivity over addition of numbers...

(Is it too spoily?)
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Posted: 2009-10-21, 22:13   

Kmon, thanks for the PM.

Xanax wrote:
What you should do is kinda similar to distributivity over addition of numbers...

(Is it too spoily?)


Thanks, but did you mean something like this?

If so, I am going to wear a bag as a hat to catch the mess from my exploding head!
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Posted: 2009-10-22, 00:21   

rwp80 wrote:
Thanks, but did you mean something like this?

Well, yeah. ;) Those equations shows something quite similar to what you should do. At least for me it looks like that. :P

If that won't help you, think about numbers you have as of digits, and then find a sense.
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Posted: 2009-10-22, 02:17   

Xanax wrote:
rwp80 wrote:
Thanks, but did you mean something like this?

Well, yeah. ;) Those equations shows something quite similar to what you should do. At least for me it looks like that. :P

If that won't help you, think about numbers you have as of digits, and then find a sense.


Okay, sorry but that didnt really help.

Kmon, your PM was a very good clue, but not a spoiler.

Thanks to both of you.

Now I'm left with a phrase --- but it doesnt seem to go into the URL as an answer, even with the --- removed.

I think I'm on the "grammar part" of the problem now. I am literally trying to blindly guess a grammar change. I've tried a few common phrases that are similar to the words I have, but they dont work either.
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Posted: 2009-10-22, 02:25   

rwp80 wrote:
I just recently decided to start playing Inward Hellix again. I got to about level 30 before I got distracted by other games


how did you solve this level before? :lol:

this step is hard to hint...
don't overthink, just keep going ;)
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Posted: 2009-10-22, 04:08   

Tynka wrote:
rwp80 wrote:
I just recently decided to start playing Inward Hellix again. I got to about level 30 before I got distracted by other games


how did you solve this level before? :lol:

this step is hard to hint...
don't overthink, just keep going ;)


I've done all the conversions. I now have letters that spell words but those words dont solve the puzzle or even lead to a hint page of any kind.

I've basically got the answer, but with some small final grammar step missing, which there is no hint for (other than in this thread).

How I solved these puzzles before? I have a terrible memory, so this time round the game is extra frustrating for me, since I've done these before! :evil:
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Posted: 2009-10-22, 09:33   

Grammar thingy will come to your mind. Then you'll slap your forehead like arrgh. The answer is ok, but not correct to the full extent.
 
     
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Posted: 2009-10-22, 14:18   

khamenei wrote:
Grammar thingy will come to your mind. Then you'll slap your forehead like arrgh. The answer is ok, but not correct to the full extent.


Thanks for everyone who helped me on this one. Got it now.

I messed around with it and the final answer was quite a jump from the converted text.
The hint screen was actually a big help.

The bad thing for this level was actually the grammar thingy. The whole time I felt like I was flogging a dead horst.

21, here I come!
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Posted: 2009-10-22, 15:34   

blame those who had been jumping to 21 by wildguessing on previous levels
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