[Leviathan]

I really, really, really, really, reeeeeeeeeeeeeally hate this level.
I go to the page every once in a while but never stay very long because I just get annoyed.
I don't even know what else to say, there are no questions I can ask besides: "what's the answer?" and where is the fun in that
I have read all the posts in here and I just can't get past that blank hs

So not really a post with any question I just had to say that I really really... and so on for a very very VERY long time... really hate this level

And what can I say... the more I hate it, the more I will love to find the right answer.
So I can't stay mad at you forever. Just abit during this level, and maybe future ones

[VisD]

Just...do it.
Write down that word that you have on a scrap of paper, take it everywhere with you. Take it out and stare at it on the bus, while waiting for one, in the toilet, etc. Think of a different way to interpret it, how it could possibly be a next step. Be flexible, and apply.

[GyRIdashai]

Agreed... I bookmarked the page and was looking at it the whole time in school until i reached the facepalm moment

Treat do it as an action. Then look at the word. How do these two link up together?
If you're still stuck, feel free to PM. It can be a little hard to.... see

[Leviathan]

solved it
and as I said I did love the answer.

usually I overthink and I was on the right track all the time but this time I didn't overthink enough... go figure

on to 52... or is it 52? ... oh crap... I'm in hell, but then aren't we all?

there much better, as I said on to 52!!!!!!

[maniac]

[littlefish]

It seems I can't




=(

[paFci0]

What have you done so far? It'll help us to help you.

[maniac]

[vard]

okay... i think i know what 2k is, i know the opposite of right and i divided the numbers into two groups using the 2k feature. now i'm trying to follow the arrows but i get gibberish... should i follow all of them, or just find the right (right as the opposite of wrong in this context ) one? i'm asking because somebody mentioned 'guessing the starting point' earlier in the thread. i think i'm getting there, but i keep getting gibberish.

EDIT: nevermind, i got it. now on to doitdoit (and being late at work).

[scjudd]

Do I need to know any.. erm.. "difficult" math for this one? Once again, I have not even the slightest idea where to begin! All that I know is "2k is right," per the page source.. and that's not exactly turned on any lights for me.

[Beezqp]

It's zero difficult math. One of the words you used to write that post is THE KEY.

[scjudd]

I think I know which word you're referring to..

I believe I understand 2k's opposition, but I haven't found any way to apply that to the graph yet..

Does the word bipartite mean anything?

Also, for nodes like 1e, 3g, 3o, should they become e, g, and o, or something else?

[Kmon]

[scjudd]

What am I supposed to do with the underlines? I've been stuck here for awhile now. I know 2k's opposition. I see a few different ways of grouping things, but do I can't figure out how to walk the graph. Do I need to change how the nodes are connected in any way?

[Beezqp]

One is right and the other is not. And then one is right and the other is not.

[Muzozavr]

You're all so ridiculously cryptic about the first part it's almost funny to an outsider who doesn't yet understand the reasons for such cryptic-ness. I have a hunch on the "simple number feature", but can I use just "2" as the number, or do I need to use "2k" as a number?

Don't know what the underlines mean...

I'm almost positive I know what the source means by "not right", but I'm not understanding something important that would allow me to walk the graph. Tried various ways, but all either dead-end or lead to gibberish, so... yeah, I have no clue how to walk the graph.

[Beezqp]

Some numbers are 2k, some are the opposite. One number can not be determined, so if you are unsure if it's right or not - go for the third option.

Concept of underlines can be left for the second step.

Careful: There is some gibbie on the right track.

[Muzozavr]

Quote:

Careful: There is some gibbie on the right track.

... then how do I distinguish it from the wrong tracks? Do I need to understand "false truth" in order to do that?

[Beezqp]

Most wrong tracks (if not all) end prematurely.

Also, there is no rocket science involved in the strings postprocessing. Only one result will make sense.

[Muzozavr]

.... still not getting this.

What determines that 2k is right? Is it just 2 (in which case 2o is also right) or is it 2k? (in which case 2o may or may not be right)

[Beezqp]

Apparently you still don't get the concept of 2k.

Try again.

[Muzozavr]

PMed you my current thoughts on this level.

[Beezqp]

PMed you back with my current thoughts on your current thoughts.

[Muzozavr]

The "undefined" number is actually not as undefined as you think it is. Still, I had this particular path in my mind for a while, I just forgot about underlines...

So I'm out of 51... but not at 52.

...

I'm not even bothering to self-censor myself now. What in the mother of fuck.

Anyway, the second step (the one with the wordless HS) is actually really awesome. Really, really awesome.

EDIT: OK, I got to the real 52. Nice.

[Beezqp]

Quote:

The "undefined" number is actually not as undefined as you think it is.

There is HS for that.

[Muzozavr]

[Beezqp]

I count on the power of human's doubt.

[Muzozavr]

[Luthorien]

Got the wordless HS....I think I know what to do, but I can't recognise the right one.....
Is it too much if I ask....--- with granma???

[Beezqp]

not sure what you mean by granma. Like grandma?