Level: 56
Age: 31 Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 22 Location: Northwest, USA
Posted: 2009-05-25, 20:31
Idk if anyone else noticed, or if it was intentional, but if you look back at level 24 it says caught you in the text, and it's also about colors and the connection with numbers.
It was just a little moment of Anagnorisis.
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Have found a HS that tells about the conversion, but I really don't see how you can get that certain letter out of those two. I see the very obvious color matching, and I also see that in the number line, two and two numbers equal the same number. 36 = 9 and 36 = 9, 53 = 8, 44 = 8, relevant?
pepez wrote:
you need something, but not picture editing program,
So I need some sort of program or additional information? I can't solve the level completely by myself?
arecek wrote:
We have our reality and Babylonian have their
Is this hint serious, so that the reality has something to to with something both we and the Babylonians have? They have their own calendar, so do we, their own mathematic system, so do we, their own astronomy, so do we, and they also have their own language, so do we. Have looked at the numbers to see if they maybe has something with specific dates to do, but didn't find anything.
One last thing: I can see the 2A and 2C thing, and it kind of looks like since those two numbers are the first and the last numbers in "you", then the black 48 is 48b, because it's like ABC. 2A, 48B, 2C.
Level: 77
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 916 Location: Poland
Posted: 2009-09-19, 14:59
Vardark wrote:
36 = 9 and 36 = 9, 53 = 8, 44 = 8, relevant?
not important...
Vardark wrote:
I can't solve the level completely by myself?
yes or not... it depends some riddle tools are helpful
Vardark wrote:
arecek wrote:
We have our reality and Babylonian have their
Is this hint serious, so that the reality has something to to with something both we and the Babylonians have? They have their own calendar, so do we, their own mathematic system, so do we, their own astronomy, so do we, and they also have their own language, so do we.
right, their reality was different
Vardark wrote:
One last thing: I can see the 2A and 2C thing, and it kind of looks like since those two numbers are the first and the last numbers in "you", then the black 48 is 48b, because it's like ABC. 2A, 48B, 2C.
wrong track...
2A and 2C helps to understand the many realities
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Okay, I'm back, and this riddle is still unsolvable.
Have tried to start at the beginning this time, trying to find out what reality means. The A and the C seem important, so I combined them into AC, which according to Wikipedia is short for Ante Christum Natum, in other words before Christ. I followed the track and checked out the numbers as specific years before Christ, but it stopped there. Didn't find anything they had in common. I need help.
One thing I really need to know is; can I solve this with what I know from before, or do I need Wikipedia/Google/Riddle tool/whatever?
What you've done so far is not correct.
Things that are important here:
- numbers on the picture (duh...)
- one of the arrows
- colors
- A and C, which can give you a clue about this "dimension" thing
Search for HS, it explains a lot (although arrow can give the same information).
What you've done so far is not correct.
Things that are important here:
- numbers on the picture (duh...)
- one of the arrows
- colors
- A and C, which can give you a clue about this "dimension" thing
Search for HS, it explains a lot (although arrow can give the same information).
I have already found the hint screen a long time ago, and I knew what it told me about even before I found it. I see the logic behind all the numbers corresponding to each of the letters, and the arrow making A + B = C. What I don't get is the thing with realities and what the numbers have in common.
do you really understand the hint screen?
try to figure out why/when something + something = something
The first something would need to equal a certain number/letter to become the answer, but to find a logical process that I can use on the other numbers and their letters as well and getting the solution is impossible. It seems that I need to understand the reality thing before I can start on that part of the riddle.
The A and the C are the only hint I have, but they don't tell me much. This one guy mentioned how the Babylonians had their reality while we had our, so I guess it has nothing to do with algebra. It is more likely something that has something to do with culture of some sort, like language. I have checked out --- of different types, and it turns out that the Babylonians had their own ---. From there, I find nothing.
Had no luck finding out what those numbers have in common, either. Was so sure that it had something to to with specific years, but since it isn't, I suspect it has something to do with more mathematical things. The numbers are not a part of one single multiplication table, they are both odd and even, and googeling them all does not give results. I'm stuck at that part too.
This level is pure mathematics. If hint screen gives you nothing, then try to find the relationship between the numbers. Maybe that way will be easier for you.
It seems like I'm paying the price for rushing through 43-47, because now I have no idea what to do...the one example 4*>*Y>* doesn't ring any bells (except a previous level but that's apparently irrelevant) and I can't find the hintscreen. Apparently the different 'realities' are simply different...n***** *y***s but there are so many to choose from and there isn't any apparent clue as to which *y**** to use if this idea is correct. Can't even figure out what 2A and 2C mean. Help please!
Level: 77
Age: 34 Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 308 Location: In layers
Posted: 2010-02-11, 03:54
Wtf Beezqp?
Of course the 2A 2C resembling hexadecimal is important.
A bit of observation and all the doors soon will open (If you solved a certain level entirely aware of what was being done).
For the future stuck: think of this level of 2 parts, one about numbers and one about letters. If you try thinking of them as the same part it's tougher and you're more likely to confuse things.
Can you see the thing the numbers have in common just by looking at them, or do I have to convert them somehow before?
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Man this was tough. One of the reasons is that Purple Hell doesn't exist anymore, so the best "tool" for the job is hard to find. Checking your ideas one by one when even the right idea looks like gibberish at first is demoralizing.
So, two hints:
1. Find HS, figure out why is it true. Figure out how the conversion works.
2. Don't panic when you see gibberish. If everything fits together, if you think you know exactly how to solve the level... you probably do.
Just to see if I understand the hint screen and what I think is the one complete arrow, is it correct to say that we already have the first letter of the answer?
That response devastated my morale! In that case, I'm not sure where to start. I hear the numbers all have something in common, but I have yet to find anything.
That response devastated my morale! In that case, I'm not sure where to start. I hear the numbers all have something in common, but I have yet to find anything.
Start from the beginning. I literally mean that, start by trying to understand the first conversion as seen on HS. What do you know about the first number (in the conversion) that you don't know about any others at this point?
Start from the beginning. I literally mean that, start by trying to understand the first conversion as seen on HS. What do you know about the first number (in the conversion) that you don't know about any others at this point?
Ok, well, I think I know that that first number is in our usual reality. I'm not certain about what realities are; I have a hunch, but then I'm not sure how to tell what reality each number is in... And if that first conversion isn't giving the final answer, I'm not sure how I'll know I've got it right.
Edit: Ah.... I think I am on to it now...
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Try to figure out the method behind the first conversion and why we need to know that little fact about the first number.
Can you figure out how to "extrapolate" the method to all other conversions?
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but then I'm not sure how to tell what reality each number is in...
Assume that this level has a solution. Literally, use that assumption as part of your thinking. There's a certain piece of data, a certain relation between all the numbers on the picture, that you "technically" don't know, but that must be a particular way, because otherwise this level wouldn't be solvable.
Thanks for your advice! Very cool level, and not so hard after all, if you trust your instincts... something people have advised multiple times, but which I often have trouble doing while my mind is churning out convoluted theories.
Muzozavr wrote:
Assume that this level has a solution. Literally, use that assumption as part of your thinking. There's a certain piece of data, a certain relation between all the numbers on the picture, that you "technically" don't know, but that must be a particular way, because otherwise this level wouldn't be solvable.
This helps; not just for this level, but in general. As does the power of posting, and a little bit of affirmation. Also: sometimes, what you believe to be the solution (and just out of reach) is actually part of the data (and intuitive).
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