Ninth Hell

Riddle Hellp - Level 14

MAd Phantom - 2007-02-26, 19:33
: Post subject: Level 14
Dachshund
Strati - 2007-03-04, 20:30
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Dachshunds say "I don't need to be here" :-/
I guess I should have the right key or find a way to fix this one i have ;)
Beezqp - 2007-03-04, 20:36
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No, you already have the key. Now find the dependence between the key and the door... T[...] P[...] is still very important.
Strati - 2007-03-04, 22:59
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Thank you for the hints, even don't helping at all :P
There are lots of clues/red herrings through the level, but its hard to join them all ;)
Beezqp - 2007-03-04, 23:02
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If you have the key, there are only two pages needed. First, connect the key to its source, then try to do the same thing with the door. There is ONE little detail on the key, that can be very helpful to solve it.
Strati - 2007-03-04, 23:40
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Thanks, I've got it by now...
I've seen that detail before, but trusted more in perfect order than chaos when finding its meaning...
Kaldrick - 2007-03-07, 21:14
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I've do something on the pic site, but I've got no clue what to do with those letters, even with hints from beezqp (thanks for'em ;]).
Beezqp - 2007-03-07, 22:13
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Look at the stairs again, then look at those letters. Try to imagine the layer with stairs on them and "go between the lines".
Kaldrick - 2007-03-09, 16:54
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I've got the key and the TP page, but I dunno what to do with this text written on key, or, to be honest, what to do with anything else in here.
Beezqp - 2007-03-09, 17:15
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As I said, find a DETAIL that has nothing to do with the password, but may be very useful clue to figure out the connection between key and TP. Then use it to open the door.
drkn - 2007-03-14, 22:47
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the last step is gay ;p
Kaldrick - 2007-03-15, 09:12
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I can't find any possible way to connect the key with TP. Maybe I just think too slow for this riddle :P
drkn - 2007-03-15, 10:15
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i believe that everything's okay with you, this part is just gay. you may pm me with what you were thinking and trying, i'll try to help.
Beezqp - 2007-03-15, 14:54
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Maybe this will help:

key => TP
door => ...


The ways should be the same.
Kaldrick - 2007-03-15, 16:47
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There's any logical way how to get TP from the txt on key?
Beezqp - 2007-03-15, 16:51
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You don't need any logical way ;] Just GET IT.
Kaldrick - 2007-03-15, 16:51
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Blah, but how ffs. One letter on one word?
Beezqp - 2007-03-15, 16:53
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Nah, forget the words. Get tp the shortest way you can
Kaldrick - 2007-03-15, 16:56
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I hate you. I really do :P Done.
drkn - 2007-03-16, 11:49
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Beez - now the last step is spoiled and clear ;p but it still is unlogical and gay.
Beezqp - 2007-03-16, 17:37
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Yes, it's gay and spoiled. Both give 0 together and make it neutral.
paFci0 - 2007-04-12, 18:26
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Aww... The last step is gay and spoiled... And I still can't get over that...
I have key, I have T..P.. page. I don't know what detail on the key is. I don't know how to connect doors and key to make it neutral... And using T..P.. with this... Crap.
Beezqp - 2007-04-12, 18:32
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First find the relation between the key and tp. Next use this relation on the door.
paFci0 - 2007-04-12, 19:49
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Done. But ending is incorrect I think... Last two letters, or I read it wrong. Check it ;]
Beezqp - 2007-04-12, 20:03
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It's been checked 2136521 times - it's ok, but there's one little thing. Whatever, it's rather unimportant.
paFci0 - 2007-04-12, 20:08
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Yea, I've just thought how should it end, and on my luck, I've done it ;]
perfectspiral - 2007-08-16, 00:06
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So...maybe I'm being really dense here but I just don't know where to begin on this one...anything to point me in the right direction???
Beezqp - 2007-08-16, 00:10
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Keyword: "together".
trvlngrn - 2007-09-11, 01:16
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Beezqp,
i found the word on 1st page, decoded the second (btw the lines), searched and found clue on the last. but while i can make many words, none seem to fit. any other hints? have enjoyed the puzzle so far
killypumpkin - 2007-09-11, 02:31
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I'm on step 2..not getting the between the lines???

[ Added: 2007-09-11, 05:55 ]
Got the between the lines. Now stalled on next step. Wondering what all this TP talk is about right now.
Which makes me think I'm missing something.
Raidmaster - 2007-09-11, 10:05
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Use TP in the same place where you have found it.
Then you will get a "map".
Map must be used in a place which you have ignored the most so far.
killypumpkin - 2007-09-11, 14:24
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I don't think I'm that far along.
Stuck at the keyhole, can make many words but the one word I keep coming up with doesn't fit.
Raidmaster - 2007-09-11, 14:49
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It depends. 14.. or 14...? About which words are you talking?
If you're on 14... you have to find the key and use it. You should know where.
killypumpkin - 2007-09-11, 14:53
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I'm on the 3rd page of 14. 14... with three dots.

I tried using the "key" and I do have it (at least I think this is the key) to form something. But every variation I try to put in the url nothing comes of it.

I seem to be really dumb when it comes to the "easy" parts. heh.
Raidmaster - 2007-09-11, 14:55
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Reverse your steps and look carefully.
killypumpkin - 2007-09-11, 15:30
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Still working on it....
Got a few diff. words but still nothing is fitting.
I wonder what I'm doing wrong here.

[ Added: 2007-09-11, 15:52 ]
nevermind....
DaWorm - 2007-09-21, 20:39
: Post subject: Where to start?
I really dont even know where to start on this one. I have studied the picture and the symbol sets, but I dont know what to do to begin. None of the above clues makes sense to me at this point...TP, key, door, one dot, two dots, three dots...blah. Any help would be appreciated. And yes, I know "Together" seems to be some directive clue, but it still doesnt mean much to me. Put the two sets of symbols together? Somehow combine the two mirrored halves together? Too literal, not literal enough?
Beezqp - 2007-09-21, 20:57
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You've written the solution yourself. ;)
DaWorm - 2007-09-21, 22:00
: Post subject: TP?
What the hell is TP? I have the key from 14..., dont know what to do with it. Clues above keep referencing TP. Acronym, obviously, but for what?
Beezqp - 2007-09-21, 22:04
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TP will be obvious if you get far enough - if you didn't find it yet - FORGET IT! It will find you first!

Are you still on the step site?

You've written you have the key - but I can't believe, because TP is obvious there! Do you see the key in the picture? Or just keyhole?
DaWorm - 2007-09-21, 22:09
: Post subject: Thought it was the key
I am on 14...

Big keyhole, searched and found a transposition "key" near keyhole. Obviously that is not the key I am looking for. Text says "Further..."
Beezqp - 2007-09-21, 22:28
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Use "what you found" on one previous step... Don't the letters look familiar? ;)
DaWorm - 2007-09-21, 23:22
: Post subject: Used map on door
and came up with three word phrase, sort of. But it doesnt work. Can you PM me please?

[ Added: 2007-09-21, 14:35 ]
Do I extend the map to the full length of TP, or is a repeating map? Arrgh...I am so close, but this last part is not fitting.
Beezqp - 2007-09-21, 23:41
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Extend it to obtain the full TP ;)
DaWorm - 2007-09-21, 23:43
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Nevermind. Last letter was messed up...guessed what it should be and it worked.
pepez - 2007-09-29, 00:18
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as mentioned before, reading all this doesnt make sense, i dont even know where to start??
start with all the silly symbols and --- ?? ( what ive been trying for a day without coming to anything logical.... )

HELP!
Beezqp - 2007-09-29, 00:43
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"Make one from two"
pepez - 2007-10-05, 21:48
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okay, now on 14....

if TP stands for T....... P... i think im on the right track, but the sentence doesnt make any sense to me... some help????

edit: found TP page, i get the source hint, but where to aplly????
Beezqp - 2007-10-05, 23:26
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What's the best to be used with a key...?
rbspartan - 2007-10-12, 19:24
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I'm still struggling with BTW the lines.... i've stared enough at my kb, and don't see it. Do they relate to the staiway? or are they standalone?

[ Added: 2007-10-12, 13:38 ]
Duh!!!!.. ok I am at 14..
SonicDeath - 2007-10-22, 00:35
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Just not getting the Between the lines part. I know I'm probably looking at it from completely the wrong angle, and it's probably far simpler than it seems. Any new hints welcome!
Tynka - 2007-10-22, 01:51
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the answer is hidden among letters and you don't need any additional tool to find it...

looking for the answer keep in mind the first screen from this level ;)
Beezqp - 2007-10-23, 10:22
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...and just go downward
Mojopin - 2007-10-25, 15:53
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I am on 14... but have had no exposure to TP (Toilet Paper? Ten Pipers? Testie Piece) so could anyone please point me in the right direction? I would be very grateful.

Or just tell me how to look through the keyhole! :P

Thanks
Tynka - 2007-10-25, 16:29
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TP you'll find on 14.... :P

for 14... just look closer ;)
Mojopin - 2007-10-25, 16:55
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Tynka I love how deliciously cryptic your clues always are in this forum!! lol

Thank you! ;)
Tynka - 2007-10-25, 17:05
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you are welcome :lol:
andaru130 - 2007-10-26, 06:44
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umm... if you're at 14... (with three dots) but you still don't know what TP is or where the key is, are you okay? O_o;

EDIT

Lalalala... Okay I got the weird "key" (or at least I think it is) and... converted a certain word that I used before, to get a word, that ALMOST makes sense, but not quite. And now I'm stuck. Help?
Beezqp - 2007-10-26, 11:57
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Sounds ok, it's the answer but don't forget xxxyyyyy...
andaru130 - 2007-10-28, 04:26
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I went to an older picture, and found X and Y... but I'm not so sure if that's what it's talking about. And why is the ending htm .xxx? O_O; It just doesn't make sense to me...
Beezqp - 2007-10-29, 14:47
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No, no... PM me with what word you've got from convertion, then I'll try to help.. Not a discussion for public ;p
Strati - 2007-11-24, 21:06
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Hint Circle - 84°
Reunite the staircase, climb the staircase, walk in the dark,
reunite the key and the door, exit.

ants112 - 2007-12-12, 19:38
: Post subject: HELP!!!
I still cant get it i'm at the three dots and i dont understand what you're talking about
arecek - 2007-12-12, 19:52
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I hope you see smthk on this pic . Now you must just find smthk to decode by this key :>
kostucha - 2008-01-26, 21:08
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Belive me or not.... Is tuck on first pickture with no ideas...
Well na not at all... any my ideas was bad ;)
Some more help? ;]
I want to die!;p
pepez - 2008-01-27, 15:10
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Go forward, together...
like Strati said, reunite the staircase..
look in the mirror, and see what doesn't reflect
kostucha - 2008-01-27, 19:37
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ok i'm in second part... between the lines ;)
Jazzie - 2008-02-02, 21:56
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I feel very silly, as I must be missing something rather obvious... :/
stuck on the BTW the lines part...

I see that they are lines from the KB (although not always straight across? the 5th line confuses me the most..)

I believe I understand the 'between the lines' part.
so for where I'm looking at.. from earlier hints... how do I look at it like it were a staircase?
Aneyah - 2008-02-03, 03:13
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Look at the picture and see the light...
Jazzie - 2008-02-14, 03:02
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I'm sorry...
that still doesn't help at all...
Tynka - 2008-02-14, 09:11
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read your own post above and answer the question you posted ;)
chortle - 2008-03-03, 20:46
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Stuck here. I have 14... and have the key. Tried decoding EVERYTHING on this level. Cannot get to 14.... - tried to PM and that seems to be inoperable.


EDIT

Nevermind. Power of post . . . now looking at 15 . . . .
VisD - 2008-04-05, 18:06
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I must be missing something here, stuck at 14. (one dot.) All I see are intricate little doodles, of which some appear on both sides, but what then?
chortle - 2008-04-05, 18:22
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VisD,

PMed you.
VisD - 2008-04-08, 10:21
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Gah. More help here please? I've been trying to _ _ _ _ _ the two sides of the squiggles forever but nothing seems to work. Something else?

E: Removed potential spoiler
Beezqp - 2008-04-08, 19:23
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It has to work!
VisD - 2008-04-09, 17:57
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Yeah, okay, finally got it - was overcomplicating the _ _ _ _ _ing, there was a much simpler way to do it than what I was doing. Thanks to those who helped. :)
sonori - 2008-04-17, 15:00
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Damn... Spend few hours over that riddle, and still cannot solve it. I found the TP, the numbers in the source and inscription on the key and ... still cannot figure it out. I suppose that i need to connect these two clues, but how? Every time i try, the result is complete gibberish.
pennylane - 2008-04-17, 15:13
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You should be glad :P Only few hours, and got TP already ;)

So many clues scattered around this level... Are you sure you got and used everything? :roll:

[ Added: 2008-04-17, 22:17 ]
Oh, you need to connect almost everything... Look at HS, figure out how. Just compare.
sonori - 2008-04-19, 00:16
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Solved. Thanks pennylane.
theoperator - 2008-05-06, 17:33
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Ok.... I am having a ruff time here. I have the key... and I try to do what it says and i get this mumbled up word...which should lead me to the TP... problem is, every time I try the mumbled word or something close to it, I get nothing... is it possible to PM someone what I am doing so they might lead me in the right direction?
Tynka - 2008-05-06, 20:20
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theoperator wrote:
is it possible to PM someone what I am doing so they might lead me in the right direction?

sure ;)
paFci0 - 2008-05-06, 20:28
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Sure. Feel free to PM people. I bet everyone will help you if you only ask kindly ;) Even me.

I don't get what is "mumbled word" for you.
Try easiest things. If you have seen TP already, I can tell you a secret: it's somehow an instruction to get answer. But shhh, don't say others!
SnowMen - 2008-06-11, 23:24
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I'm on 2nd part between the lines and totally stuck here... Maybe someone will send me PM? Because I even don't know where to start

EDIT: Ok, solved this part :D
rwp80 - 2008-07-19, 17:19
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Hello all,
I've played through to level 14.... (four dots) and read this entire thread about 12 times.

I've tried to censor this part to avoid giving spoilers:
I already got the ".xxx" clue, but I don't know how to use it.
I went to the T*** P*** page and only got "ThE***", and the number <! x x x x>; Again I don't know how to use them either.


I am totally stuck for ideas now. I have tried combining everything and I'm still lost.
Can someone please help me? (here in thread or in PM) Thanks.
I can't go any further without some more insight.

Oh, and thank you for making this riddle! It's great, except for the really hard parts, like this level! :evil:
Tynka - 2008-07-19, 17:36
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check the whole level carefully... use the key in the right place ;)


rwp80 wrote:
Oh, and thank you for making this riddle! It's great, except for the really hard parts, like this level! :evil:

hard levels are still before you... :twisted:
rwp80 - 2008-07-20, 16:55
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First of all, thanks for the advice so far. Unfortunately, it has not been any help at all.

I'm making a fresh post since I have made some progress since my last post.
This is what I have so far. I will try to censor it to avoid spoils.

e***
r***h***
x***y***.x*** (I still dont have any idea where or how to use this. Unless the second 'x' is supposed to be exactly the same as the first 'x', then mathematically this clue is wrong, misleading, or just a useless red herring)
r***w***
T*** P***
ThE***
<! * * * *> (four numerical digits; the "map" I assume)

I have tried every combination of the map on the key inscription, ---, and every other bit of text. I have tried "reuniting" the key inscription with ---, with no results.
Obviously, this is not the solution.

I noticed that the key ---.
I have done every possible combination ---, again, with no results.
Obviously, this is also not the solution.

The only semi-legible phrase that I have found is 'Pie*****', but that hasn't worked anywhere either.

I understand that this riddle has been checked over and over, but at this point I'll bet that it hasn't been 'checked' by anyone who isn't part of the development team, as clearly the last step of this level requires me to do something that isn't suggested anywhere in the level text, source code, images, or anything. Levels 1 to 13 are fine, although I did have to look at this forum quite regularly, which is not a problem.

However, level 14 has a step that seems to be so obscure that, in my opinion, is not logical or suggested at all, which means it isn't designed properly. Earlier, Uncle Drak in this thread said that "the last step is gay". I have to agree.

I appreciate this game and the advice people have given on this level, but seriously, none of the advice has actually helped.
I know I need to use the map somewhere.
I know the key needs to be united with the door (obviously, keys dont open doors from far away! :roll: ).

But can someone please give a straight answer to me in PM or, preferably, here in the thread so that newer players dont go through the analytical hell I have endured over the last three days. Here's three days: :| :x :| :cry: :(

I don't want to give up, as I love this great riddle.
Much appreciated, thanks.

[edit]

By 'answer', I meant like a 'clear, direct hint'. I wouldn't play at all if people were just giving me the final answers!

I was not accusing anyone of anything game-design flaws. I know that I am not part of the 'first wave' of people to play this, and therefore many people have solved the puzzle without help or inside knowledge. Over the many misspent years of game-playing, I have seen too many good games ruined by having steps or parts 'missing' to solve the problem.
I'm now glad to see that Inward Hellix isn't one of those (I can only speak up to level 15, of course). I was getting paranoid that the game was flawed, but my faith has been restored. :P

Thanks again.
pennylane - 2008-07-20, 17:38
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rwp80,

Don't be frustrated for 3 days stuck... I've been spending at least one week per level lately :P ... Some took me about one month...
Level 14 may become a pain, 'cause it's huge... It's awesome, though, and it's not the hardest, believe me.
You got TP, right? And also numbers, I guess... Have you found the connection among "ThE ***", numbers and the key? If you did, just use it in the right place. Where keys are commonly used, where you haven't used anything yet (you're still locked, remember? ;) )
Don't give up, the game is great. And feel free to PM people for hints. Spoiled riddles are bad :P
Beezqp - 2008-07-20, 17:56
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Quote:
I understand that this riddle has been checked over and over, but at this point I'll bet that it hasn't been 'checked' by anyone who isn't part of the development team

Don't be afraid, masses of people solved this level before. There's one single detail, which is not as obvious as it should be but this is at the very end of the riddle, where everyone know what the answer is in fact. It's almost sure that there are no mistakes from the riddlemaker in IH. It's checked by me and 12 people who made it through the game and helped me to eliminate every fault.

Quote:
Earlier, Uncle Drak in this thread said that "the last step is gay". I have to agree.

Since Drak had told this, the level has been upgraded many times and it's not as gay as it had been before ;)

Quote:
can someone please give a straight answer to me in PM or, preferably, here in the thread

Forget about this. Neither now, in 14, nor any later. Only hints, even spoilers [only on PM] but never the answers. ;)


My hint: check the relation between the key and TP. Make this term longer, count and use and count.
rwp80 - 2008-07-20, 18:03
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Thanks for the advice. You've helped me pinpoint what I need to do, but I'm still stuck.

pennylane wrote:
Have you found the connection among "ThE ***", numbers and the key? If you did, just use it in the right place. Where keys are commonly used, where you haven't used anything yet (you're still locked, remember? ;) )


Yes, I found the connection between the numbers, ThE***, and the key.
I'm assuming the 4 numbers is the thing people are calling "the map". Unfortunately, I have already used the map on the text "where keys are commonly used" in many different ways, and the results just seemed to be nonsense random letters. I could post or PM the results of this exercise, but it would just look like a two-year-old or a cat had just bashed the keyboard! :P

[edit]

Finally, I solved it! :shock: :mrgreen:

I just want to say a big thanks to Tynka, Beezqp, and pennylane for all their help in thread and PM. ;)

Here's my say for newer players that jump into this bear-trap of a level:

1. Be patient. I spent three days on this, and I'm told that the worst is yet to come. This is the last level in Chapter I, which I'm guessing is why it's so tough! Chapter II's different style looks amazing and is definately worth the wait/work! :)

2. Have some graphics software at the ready. No... better than windows paint! You will need something like GIMP (as recommended in the game description) or Paint.NET (the one I used), both are free. You won't need to do anything very advanced. You might even be able to get by without any graphics software on this level, but it helps. A lot.

3. Once you've got "TP" and the numerical code, they are not "the map". They help you find it.
To save you the irritating hours I lost, I will say that at no point does the 4-digit numerical sequence ever repeat. If you're getting long strings of nonsense letters, then you are doing totally the wrong thing, and so doing it slightly differently will be a big waste of your time.
Just spot the relation between "TP" and the code, then use that relation to understand the key, then obviously use the key to understand the door. I hope that doesn't spoil it too much. :P

Good luck to the newer players, and thanks again to the older players!
ViperScale - 2008-08-29, 03:29
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on 14... i have a new word / words that I can't seem to find any use from and think I understand what looking through the keyhole means but not sure what to look at any hints?
Beezqp - 2008-08-29, 03:42
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Which part you are on?
ViperScale - 2008-08-29, 03:52
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last thing i got was s..w.... from 14... and not sure what to do with it or if it is something else i need to be looking for.
Beezqp - 2008-08-29, 04:03
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You didn't solve 14..., did you? If not then try to use "something looking like something important" on... on what the left side suggest. Oh dear, that was not so good hint, but ok.

If you solved 14... and are further... then read the whole thread again and again...
ViperScale - 2008-08-29, 04:17
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hmmm maybe you are talking about something else but that just sounds like you are talking about what got me the s..w.... word which I can't find a use for.
pennylane - 2008-08-29, 12:16
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Maybe you got the wrong word.
Beezqp - 2008-08-29, 13:45
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I can't remember anything with s..w.... on 14. You had mess sth up, I guess
ViperScale - 2008-08-29, 23:18
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well maybe i am doing something wrong translated every word on all the pages using the key from 14... and not coming up with anything that makes sense. (both directions at that)
Tynka - 2008-08-29, 23:34
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check your first idea once again...
but don't forget about the 'xy' hint from the source ;)
ViperScale - 2008-08-30, 02:23
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finally done but just out of curiosity could someone PM how you are suppose to get the last letter without guessing since the TP gives it to you wrong =)
Beezqp - 2008-08-30, 03:09
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do the trick or just guess it - that doesn't matter actually if you only get the password, does it?
vard - 2008-08-30, 22:56
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I had the same problem. well, guessing the last letter isn't a problem at all if you know English a bit, but still... I don't understand why the last letter is * and not *. was it supposed to be just... illogical?
Beezqp - 2008-08-30, 23:27
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No - just ignore one detail of rule and you'll find the right letter.
wukazetka - 2008-09-12, 15:21
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I feel like an idiot, but I really don't get even the first part. Do I have to do something with the pic? Or what...and this 'together', completely nothing comes into my head. Please, help :cry:
Tynka - 2008-09-12, 15:30
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yes, you have to ;)
wukazetka - 2008-09-12, 16:13
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that was...idiotic and annoying. thanks ;)
SupertonC90 - 2008-09-20, 15:37
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Please help... I`m on three dots.... I have the the letters that.... well U know the y=x thingy...
I STILL DON`T KNOW WHAT TP IS...... And the only thing I`m getting from x=y is --- what am I to do with that.... it doesn`t work.....
Tynka - 2008-09-20, 16:14
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you know what to do, try once again
Brushstroke - 2008-09-21, 07:59
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Is there something I'm not seeing here that can only be seen with further editing of the picture? Because all I see is a bunch of random symbols and a staircase (or is that two staircases?).
Tynka - 2008-09-21, 09:06
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look carefully at the symbols and notice some details...
it should help you to figure out how to work with the picture ;)
SupertonC90 - 2008-09-21, 14:09
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Quote:

Is there something I'm not seeing here that can only be seen with further editing of the picture? Because all I see is a bunch of random symbols and a staircase (or is that two staircases?).
Make one out of two ;)

And what am I to do? I have the key, I tried using it on the lines part, and got SW word and it doesn`t work, AND I STILL DONT KNOW WHAT TP IS..... Did I miss something????
Beezqp - 2008-09-21, 14:37
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You will know TP on your time... At the moment - forget about it.

You got xxxyyyyy - it's not just yyyyyyyy. Do not overthink, you know what to do.
SupertonC90 - 2008-09-21, 19:35
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ok thx... solved whole 14....

Jeeeeeeeeezzz wtf is this noise on 15 ! ! !
I though it was gonna end when I found the pass :P
Brushstroke - 2008-09-30, 04:31
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I stopped playing for awhile, and now I'm returning back to 14 to see if I can get anything out of all this.

In the picture, the stairs are mirrored, and there are some letters and symbols that are mirrored on each side too. I wrote down what they were (or, at least, what I thought they looked like), but the letters don't form anything...

What am I missing?

If someone would, please PM me and point me in the right direction. Thank you. :)
legobenj - 2008-09-30, 09:37
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Follow through with the mirror thing.
vard - 2008-09-30, 11:10
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you need to DO something with the picture before you see the answer.
Brushstroke - 2008-10-01, 02:57
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vard wrote:
you need to DO something with the picture before you see the answer.
You mean something more than I've already done in giving it some light so I can see the symbols?
Beezqp - 2008-10-01, 06:13
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definitely
vard - 2008-10-01, 09:22
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and more than you could do in paint brush.
master cux - 2008-12-06, 15:25
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hy i'm new to this so i have 2 questions...what is TP? and how do i find it? :mrgreen:

PM me if you need to :)
Beezqp - 2008-12-06, 15:50
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TP will find you.
master cux - 2008-12-08, 17:08
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ok, i'm on 14... and I still have no clue what TP is????

could someone pm me :roll:
Beezqp - 2008-12-08, 20:14
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TP is abbreviation
ruchi - 2009-01-16, 20:46
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Hi all
Is there any possible "additional hint" for the 8 lines of letters?? Just the next of the stairs.
I don't know how to see between lines...
paFci0 - 2009-01-16, 21:08
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The shape.
Beezqp - 2009-01-16, 21:09
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The stairs
ruchi - 2009-01-17, 20:56
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Thanks pafcio and beezqp :P
Now I'm at 14.... trying to figure out the last key.
I'll continue later because right now I just get strange and impossible words :mrgreen:

Finally I got it. Thanks for the hints, sooner or later they trigger something in your mind.
Vardark - 2009-01-23, 23:01
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It seems like everyone tackles the first level of 14, but I can't make it.
"Let's go forward... together." is really the only hint I can find, the rest of the riddle just looks normal.
Beezqp - 2009-01-23, 23:42
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two ones are apart now, help them to be together
Vardark - 2009-01-24, 22:13
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Okay, I have connected them now, but what I got now is even more cryptic! And there is no number between 8!
Strati - 2009-01-24, 22:23
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What you mean by "number between 8" ?
If you got to part 2, blackscreen + lines of letters, there is a similar idea to part 1 in the way you read the answer.
Vardark - 2009-01-24, 23:11
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Okay, now I solved that part too, and got to the keyhole. I have found the "key on the keyhole" and the xy thing. The problem I have now is ehat to do with the key, and where the xy thing fits into this.

EDIT: WTF?! I translated a word and got another word... That not is the password?!
EDIT 2: Well, now I am at the page with underlines at the two letters, and i have found that extra page, TP. It does not help me though. I think I have solved the number code, and got a word, TE__, but what to do now?
Beezqp - 2009-01-25, 01:26
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TE__ is only beginning of "something" and you have only "the beginning of the key"... When you get everything, you will get the whole key.
Buse - 2009-01-26, 14:21
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Hi,
We are still struggling to figure out the picture. Do you need any programs to figure this one out? I guess you have to ---...

Greetz
Beezqp - 2009-01-26, 14:30
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What's the problem? You have guessed the whole solution ;) Yes, you need graphic soft
iznotgood - 2009-01-26, 15:09
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I've got the skill to change some color and brightness but I cant work with layers, reflection etc. :(
Tynka - 2009-01-26, 15:33
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time to learn ;) it will be useful in the future...
iznotgood - 2009-01-26, 16:13
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Dammit thats hard.
EDIT: i learned some skills and got e*****

I have to go bwn lines now, mmmh ... :( ?

EDIT: mmh, r**h**** now :)

EDIT: haha klik :D

EDIT: almost now

Mmh kinda stuck with TP and _ _ :(

OMG finnaly got it thx all for help!
scjudd - 2009-02-09, 06:41
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FINALLY beat this one.. looking back at it, it wasn't that hard.. I just wasn't putting pieces of information together.
asdfgirls - 2009-03-04, 11:59
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okey stuck at the last key.
guess you have to ---. But what I get makes no sense at all :?
Beezqp - 2009-03-04, 13:09
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so try again, because you just wrote the right solution.
asdfgirls - 2009-03-04, 13:46
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Finally Done! I AM SO STUPID
Okay I just made an error and forgot a word. :P
Ty for all the hints.
Here I come, chapter II! (at last :twisted: )
Brushstroke - 2009-03-06, 05:35
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Okay...

So I'm at the part of this level with the 64 letters and the hint, "Go between the lines... As the answers lie between." I noticed that these rows (and columns) of letters are analogous to letter arrangements on the keyboard. Does my keyboard play any part in solving this part of the level?

And also, am I supposed to have found TP before this?
Beezqp - 2009-03-06, 11:00
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Brushstroke wrote:
Does my keyboard play any part in solving this part of the level?

nah

Quote:
And also, am I supposed to have found TP before this?

as I said before - TP will find you when its time.
Marlett - 2009-03-08, 01:09
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so we use ThE--- to get the beginning of TP. Now, using the same method, we have to get something else to open the door, yeah?...but from what are we supposed to get it?

Nevermind
Brushstroke - 2009-03-08, 04:14
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I have gotten past the part with the letters and the hint that instructs me to go "Between the lines." and I've gotten past the part of 14 with the two dots, and now I'm at the 14 with the three dots, and I think this is the key I have here...I'm not sure what to do with it though. Shall I form words?

And I keep reading all this about "TP" and I have found no such thing as of yet. Did I miss something?
Marlett - 2009-03-08, 11:36
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Brushstroke wrote:
I think this is the key I have here...I'm not sure what to do with it though. Shall I form words?


you can't imagine how close to the answer you're. Don't the left part of the key resembles you anything? Maybe something, that you've already come across? When you'll recognise this it will be obviously how to use the right part of the key.

Brushstroke wrote:
And I keep reading all this about "TP" and I have found no such thing as of yet. Did I miss something?

As it was said lots of times - just forget about TP before it'll find you itself
mock - 2009-03-08, 20:13
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bummer....I tried to put what seems to be apart together, but I can't get any sense out if it :( can someone pls pm with anything useful?
Tynka - 2009-03-08, 20:46
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PM where you are and what you have tried so far...
Brushstroke - 2009-03-08, 21:44
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Hm. I have TP now, but I'm not sure what to do with it. And the T and the E in the word "the" were underlined in part of this message here, so I've copied that down. Also, I have this xxxyyyyy.xxx clue, but how do I apply this?
Marlett - 2009-03-09, 13:06
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Brushstroke wrote:
Hm. I have TP now, but I'm not sure what to do with it. And the T and the E in the word "the" were underlined in part of this message here, so I've copied that down

't' and 'e' are already done for you. Keep in mind TP and continue...then open the door with the key
Brushstroke wrote:
Also, I have this xxxyyyyy.xxx clue, but how do I apply this?

I also had problems with xxxyyyyy.xxx in this part of level, but it turned out, that we already used it in previous step so we don't need it now)
Brushstroke - 2009-03-09, 16:11
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Hm. Could someone PM me with something about how to go about using TP to solve ThE/ThE*** (the one that you get from TP.htm) or applying these to TP? I am entirely clueless as to how to use these hints.

Quote:
I also had problems with xxxyyyyy.xxx in this part of level, but it turned out, that we already used it in previous step so we don't need it now)

Ah, okay. Yeah, that make sense now. Thank you.
nathanzo - 2009-03-30, 18:32
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I was listening to the Keane song 'The Lovers Are Losing' as I started this one - helped a lot with the first part!

P.S. mistakes in 14... (first letter) and 14....(last letters)? Had to use a it of guess work to get actual answers; I expect better of this riddle =(
Beezqp - 2009-03-30, 23:04
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nathanzo wrote:
14... (first letter)

nah

nathanzo wrote:
and 14....(last letters)

partially nah
Mordor - 2009-04-06, 17:30
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Hey I'm new here and I first off want to say that this site rules and thanks to the creators. It really gets your mind working. But I do have a problem. I have read through all the hints and I am still stuck on 14... I know I am probably over thinking the answer, but I don't know where to start.
Tynka - 2009-04-06, 17:45
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maybe you need more light? ;)
blueberry02 - 2009-07-02, 23:27
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help help please i dont know what to do??????? :roll: how to start with level 14, i fill so stupid!?!?!?
Xanax - 2009-07-03, 13:40
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Don't let your eyes be fooled. You should be seeing only one thing...
blueberry02 - 2009-07-10, 23:29
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:shock: :mrgreen: :idea: when you get those faces together you are looking at me stuck on lvl 14.... is anybody in the mude for help ?
beatrix_kiddo - 2009-07-27, 17:05
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FINALLY got it! one of my favourite levels till now.
everything unbelievably logical, i think.
Muzozavr - 2009-08-10, 11:07
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Dammit, am I the only one who can't even figure out the first step here?! I'm at the stairs part where it says "let's go forward together" in the source... and I can't even start. :lol: Seriously, where do I begin at least?
Xanax - 2009-08-10, 12:21
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So there are stairs, but isn't something wrong with them?
Muzozavr - 2009-08-10, 13:50
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Well, the only thing I can find wrong with them is that it's stupidly dark, otherwise standard creepy stairs. :?
Xanax - 2009-08-10, 14:13
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They are not standard at all. You should "fix" them. ;)
Muzozavr - 2009-08-10, 20:06
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Do you mean ---?
I can't find anything suspicious in the image so far... But everything else seems to fail.
Beezqp - 2009-08-10, 20:13
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come on, the whole... way the image is is suspicious!
Muzozavr - 2009-08-10, 20:17
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Do the "symbols" at the top and the bottom have any meaning?
Xanax - 2009-08-10, 20:24
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They will, once you fix the picture. :) Remember about source code hint. It should give you an idea on how to do that.
Muzozavr - 2009-08-10, 22:15
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If this is correct and spoily, then *BZZZERT! CUT! BZZZERT!*
Xanax - 2009-08-10, 22:29
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Yes, but you should use a PM to ask such a super-spoily question. ;) Besides, first check if your idea is correct and then ask...

Oh yeah, and you should censore post yourself if you already know everything.
Muzozavr - 2009-08-10, 22:35
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I actually did check, but I guess I made a mistake that prevented me from getting it right. Thanks, I'll try again.

[ Added: 2009-08-11, 09:10 ]
I'm at 14.... with four dots and appear to be utterly stuck... Found the hintscreen, tried to use the phrase on the message to get a bunch of numbers... and... I think I'm stuck. :lol:

EDIT: Wait, so THAT'S what TP is... I used the TP on the message and got these numbers...
EDIT 2: Wait, I'm a colossal dumbass... And yes, the last letter can be solved semi-logically... Everything is OK, no mistakes here. ;)

Staring at 15 now. Power of posting, I guess.
Strati - 2009-08-12, 05:13
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Kudos. Power of Posting. I wonder what next...
th3reaper - 2009-08-14, 10:32
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Finally got to the keyhole where it says "Further..." but i'm not sure what to do. Maybe if I sleep on it, i'll figure out what the next step is. But not sure what to do with the letters equaling eachother. Any hints on this matter?

[ Added: 2009-08-15, 22:48 ]
Solved whole level :mrgreen: If anyone thinks the solution is illogical at any point believe me its not. Based off hints on this forum The answer was actually quite logical. Remeber "extend it to full TP" that'll lead you right.
dummyisdumb - 2009-09-06, 05:23
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Even after reading this thread (many times) I'm 'stuck' on 14....

If the 'key' or 'map' is a number sequence, sure, I've got a bunch of numbers from TP after adding to key, but I'm not sure if this is right at all because I tried applying this --- but that came out as gibberish. I've never been stuck on a level even after reading so many hints and I can't imagine the game getting easier so if anyone can offer a little bit of a vague piece of help.
Strati - 2009-09-06, 05:39
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It would require too much of spoiler content to discuss the riddle secrets here. PM me if you will.
dummyisdumb - 2009-09-06, 06:06
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You can't be vague?
Strati - 2009-09-06, 07:28
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Well, this thread have about 5 pages of "vague" and you still haven't solved the riddle.
dummyisdumb - 2009-09-06, 07:45
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Strati wrote:
Well, this thread have about 5 pages of "vague" and you still haven't solved the riddle.


Yeah well, my dad is an astronaut! I bet you can't say that!
Strati - 2009-09-06, 11:46
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See if your father can solve the riddle then, it should be easy for him.
dummyisdumb - 2009-09-07, 18:47
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Great level. Thanks Strati.

If anybody can't figure out where to use your key, ask where is the most obvious place to use a door and backstep.
Muzozavr - 2009-09-07, 19:12
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Glad you liked the level as much as I did! It's really one of my favorite ones.
Brushstroke - 2009-09-17, 23:24
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Hey again. I decided to come back to this puzzle and I'm at 14.... (with the four dots). I have TP, and ThE*** but still don't know what to do on this page that has the *** beginning its message.

And, ---...? What?

What am I supposed to do here? Could someone send me a PM, possibly?
Beezqp - 2009-09-17, 23:47
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You send PM first. Asking everyone results in reply from noone ;)

TP is very important, just following the trail FIND IT, find the key.
rwp80 - 2009-10-21, 05:23
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rwp80 wrote:
Thanks for the advice. You've helped me pinpoint what I need to do, but I'm still stuck.

pennylane wrote:
Have you found the connection among "ThE ***", numbers and the key? If you did, just use it in the right place. Where keys are commonly used, where you haven't used anything yet (you're still locked, remember? ;) )


Yes, I found the connection between the numbers, ThE***, and the key.
I'm assuming the 4 numbers is the thing people are calling "the map". Unfortunately, I have already used the map on the text "where keys are commonly used" in many different ways, and the results just seemed to be nonsense random letters. I could post or PM the results of this exercise, but it would just look like a two-year-old or a cat had just bashed the keyboard! :P

[edit]

Finally, I solved it! :shock: :mrgreen:

I just want to say a big thanks to Tynka, Beezqp, and pennylane for all their help in thread and PM. ;)

Here's my say for newer players that jump into this bear-trap of a level:

1. Be patient. I spent three days on this, and I'm told that the worst is yet to come. This is the last level in Chapter I, which I'm guessing is why it's so tough! Chapter II's different style looks amazing and is definately worth the wait/work! :)

2. Have some graphics software at the ready. No... better than windows paint! You will need something like GIMP (as recommended in the game description) or Paint.NET (the one I used), both are free. You won't need to do anything very advanced. You might even be able to get by without any graphics software on this level, but it helps. A lot.

3. Once you've got "TP" and the numerical code, they are not "the map". They help you find it.
To save you the irritating hours I lost, I will say that at no point does the 4-digit numerical sequence ever repeat. If you're getting long strings of nonsense letters, then you are doing totally the wrong thing, and so doing it slightly differently will be a big waste of your time.
Just spot the relation between "TP" and the code, then use that relation to understand the key, then obviously use the key to understand the door. I hope that doesn't spoil it too much. :P

Good luck to the newer players, and thanks again to the older players!


I just recently decided to start playing Inward Hellix again. I got to about level 30 before I got distracted by other games (MMORPGs!).

I had been banging my head against the wall for hours on this one, then decided to check the forum for hints. My own post from over a year ago (quoted above) was exactly what I needed to solve the last step!

HOORAY FOR ME!
Beezqp - 2009-10-21, 10:44
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lol, you are the first man who got the level from hints from himself
MagpieVon - 2009-10-21, 23:05
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Okay...I started playing this amazingly maddening riddle yesterday, and got so frustrated with level 14 that I am now desperately begging for help. I figured out what to do with the stairs and am now on the 8 lines...

And that's where I'm at a loss. Apparently I'm supposed to be seeing something that they make? Look between the lines? BUT I HAVE NO IDEA. Someone please help?
Xanax - 2009-10-22, 00:23
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Remember those stairs from previous part? They are showing the way. ;)
MagpieVon - 2009-10-22, 00:46
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Thanks for the hint, Xanax. I'm still lost, but I have a better idea of where to go.
Beezqp - 2009-10-22, 01:22
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nowhere to go

go upstairs
khamenei - 2009-10-22, 09:34
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Or downstairs... to each its own.
Beezqp - 2009-10-22, 09:59
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yes, you are right. downstairs. sorry.
paras19 - 2009-11-02, 09:16
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People, i'm in the first page of 14 for 3 days now... I don't know anything about image editing so i can't figure out how to start....

Can anyone pm with a good tutorial for image editing? I tried to search in google but its so much things that i didnt know where to start

Thanks
Muzozavr - 2009-11-03, 10:53
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You need to find a tutorial on blending images. I'm not saying more than that.
khamenei - 2009-11-05, 12:19
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I went through the majority of levels without Gimp or Photoshop. I only used Gimp twice.
You don't need to play with blending, layers and all of that if you're shifty like me haha.

Edit: The hint that worked for me was made by Beezqp like 2 years ago:
Quote:
"Make one from two"

Chezecaek - 2010-01-09, 21:44
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In this topic I have seen many hints, followed them to the best of my abilities...I have brought these things in the picture together, played with them, tried to make them comprehensible...nay, I am afraid they are still incomprehensible bullcrud. I did however find a --- and a --- as instructed. Could this be the proper key to use, and have I found the proper door? I am told about nightmares, and to find a pattern...how to find that pattern...I am perplexed...cheesecake is yummy...

I seem to have solved it.
Tynka - 2010-01-09, 22:20
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forget about hintscreens you've found... they are useless for you now ;)

first - solve the first screen of level 14 ;)
play with the picture...
MagpieVon - 2010-02-03, 01:28
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UG! I'm SO fed up with this level. I took a break for a few months and started over, and I'm STILL stuck on 14. I have literally EVERYTHING. There's a step in the last part that I'm missing somehow. I could really use a clue that's not so very vague.
Xanax - 2010-02-03, 01:39
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I guess I won't tell you nothing new, but if you really have everything, then use knowledge given by example on TP page on the key.
MagpieVon - 2010-02-03, 02:01
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I've tried using that knowledge on literally everything in this level. Well, apparently not everything since I haven't beaten it yet. Any way you can PM me with another hint?
Xanax - 2010-02-03, 14:03
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Better you send me a PM first, with everything you have and what you've tried so far.
KoTH - 2010-02-04, 09:32
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I am well and truly stuck on 14....
I have TP and the number sequence that it gives. I have tried applying TP to the "t*" section, but it just gives me a string of nothing. I did notice that "T*" gives the --- (cut if too spoily) but I don't know if that's intentional or just a coincidence (you know now ;) ). Do I need to use the key from 14... on any of this? Cause I've done that on a couple of things, but I don't get anything.
Any push in the right direction would be nice.
VisD - 2010-02-04, 10:24
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No you do not need the keyhole anymore.


Apply TP to "t*" section then reuse on something else like it that you haven't used yet.
miikele - 2010-05-14, 20:49
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I think i have the first 4 letters of the last step, they make absolutley sens. But the last letters i cant find. I think i contiure the code right, but it dont work :/ Could i pm my letters i have to somone?
Tynka - 2010-05-14, 20:56
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sure ;) letters and your method...
miikele - 2010-05-14, 20:59
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Oh, I just sent you a pm :lol: thank you :)

[ Added: 2010-05-14, 22:24 ]
Hm, to translate TP, do I neet to guess the missing letters, or is there a logical way to insert them?

[ Added: 2010-05-15, 10:17 ]
I have it! Thanks Tinka!!! :lol:

15 i made in 5 minutes, now i am on 16...
hangups - 2010-08-07, 02:40
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I am terribly stuck on 14....

I have TP and ThE*** and I know I have to ---. I'm just not seeing a solution out of it. Help pls!!!
Tynka - 2010-08-07, 02:47
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i can say one thing only: try harder...
jeds_san - 2010-08-09, 20:59
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I'm on what I believe is the last part of this level. I have TP and ThE... I also have the #'s. When I connect the #'s with ThE, I get ****... But that doesn't seem to help. Anybody want to put me in the right direction, or give a little clue?
SupertonC90 - 2010-08-10, 00:01
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jeds_san wrote:
I'm on what I believe is the last part of this level. I have TP and ThE... I also have the #'s. When I connect the #'s with ThE, I get ****... But that doesn't seem to help. Anybody want to put me in the right direction, or give a little clue?


ThE... is just a hint on TP isn`t it? Now TP is somehow connected to the key, you probably know that already. And where does the key fit?

1. Fit the key in it`s place...
2. Now connect the TP with the place the key fits...
3. Get the pass :) (there`s just that one little thing in TP that might cause problems, but it`ll come to you)
4. Spread love and peace :)
jeds_san - 2010-08-10, 00:25
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I know I can find TP in the key, but that's all I can come up with. And the #'s don't give me anything.
Beezqp - 2010-08-10, 00:30
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there is no way it can't... ;)
jeds_san - 2010-08-10, 00:31
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Beezqp wrote:
there is no way it can't... ;)


Can I PM you what I have so far to see what I'm doing wrong?
Beezqp - 2010-08-10, 00:34
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yeah but be quick, i was going to sleep
jeds_san - 2010-08-11, 04:33
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SOLVED.

Hard one. Looking forward to the greater challenges in 15 > ...
Mongoose - 2010-08-18, 04:13
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Hey, I returned to this riddle after a couple of years and managed to re-solve what I had done without much trouble, and even got a bit further without having much trouble... this level is stumping me for the moment, though.

I am at 14.. and I came to the forum for some hints but it seems like everyone else here was able to complete this part of the level without any trouble. All the posts are like "I'm stuck at the first page... oh wait! I got it and now I'm on 14..." without any mention of trouble with the second page [14..].

Now I feel silly! Would anyone like to give me a nudge in the right direction for this part?

EDIT: I guess this is what you call the "power of posting"... I'm looking at 14... now.
Phoenix - 2010-08-22, 04:32
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Please help!! im stuck on 14.... with TP and the numbers and i cant get anywhere with them. everything ive tried so far is just gibberish.
Mongoose - 2010-08-22, 04:41
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Since I keep coming here for help I'll try my hand at offering some of my own...

So you've found all the parts of the puzzle... ---, etc., and you've found out about TP. You found the page at TP with the numbers... that page tells you how to read the key. Once you see how, go on and read the key... and then use it ---.

Hope that helps and hope it's not saying too much, cut me up if need be!
Phoenix - 2010-08-22, 04:47
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every way ive tried to apply it to the key is doesnt make sense. what am i doing wrong? PM?
Stray - 2010-09-01, 00:29
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Okay, um getting past the first picture was easy, and now I'm on the HS (?) with all those letters, i've noticed a pattern, I think, but should I be doing something to those letters, maybe something involving mirrors?

edit: wow, I feel stupid now, just had to do it like I would in a newspaper. Found what is obviously ---, now what...

edit: the power of posting exists, it's true. I found TP, and how the #s relate to T*****

i've used it on a couple of things and mostly ended up with long strings of gibberish, apart from a two word suggestion? Am I on the right track now?
maniac - 2010-09-01, 09:48
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Stray wrote:
Okay, um getting past the first picture was easy, and now I'm on the HS (?) with all those letters, i've noticed a pattern, I think, but should I be doing something to those letters, maybe something involving mirrors?

edit: wow, I feel stupid now, just had to do it like I would in a newspaper. Found what is obviously ---, now what...

edit: the power of posting exists, it's true. I found TP, and how the #s relate to T*****

i've used it on a couple of things and mostly ended up with long strings of gibberish, apart from a two word suggestion? Am I on the right track now?


Apart from the two words suggestion, you should have --- :twisted:
Stray - 2010-09-02, 16:05
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Okay, I have --- the door telling me to do something, but the thing it's telling me to do doesn't make any sense...
Beezqp - 2010-09-02, 17:44
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and since when doors are talking
Stray - 2010-09-02, 17:45
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What? talking doors :(

edit: just to clarify, is the answer for no. 14 the same --- as ---?
Muzozavr - 2010-09-02, 17:56
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If you are applying --- and get ---... try them as an answer. If it doesn't work, then it means you've done something wrong.
Stray - 2010-09-02, 18:12
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no, I got the right answer eventually, I realized that I had been ---, so that threw me off ---, as soon as I had the right nos. I was fine. The last letter makes me laugh for some reason. :mrgreen:
SpiralOut420 - 2010-09-26, 22:16
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The first part of the puzzle is most definately possible to solve with paint. I couldn't figure out how to do it with any other program. I'm now stuck on "4...." Got the numbers, figure I know where to use them but I could be wrong. I try going from right to left, top to bottom, but I get nothing that makes any sense...Help!!
vard - 2010-09-26, 23:03
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with ms paint? how, on earth?!

anyway, try walking down the stairs. :)
SpiralOut420 - 2010-09-26, 23:12
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I figured it still held the stairway pattern, but I just can't figure out how I should count...I dunno maybe I'm wrong about something.

[ Added: 2010-09-26, 23:33 ]
Nope. Still completely confused.

[ Added: 2010-09-27, 00:52 ]
Solved! I'm an idiot.
KoTH - 2010-09-30, 08:56
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Stuck on what I think is the last part of 14....
I have TP and I understand how it relates the number sequence to "T*****" and I got a --- word using that on the key but I don't know where to go from here. I tried using the number sequence with --- , and although I got something that made perfect sense, it didn't work.
Any help?
Tynka - 2010-09-30, 10:09
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right track
use the whole TP not only a few first letters
KoTH - 2010-09-30, 10:45
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Huzzah!
Thanks for the hint, helped alot!
Chapter 2 here I come :happy:
Hydrazine - 2010-10-24, 20:27
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First off: this has been a wonderful diversion.

Second, I'm now on my second run through (I stopped at 14 about 3 years ago) and now I'm back. I'm again stuck at 14 though (after getting through the first 13 with minimal difficulty), and I don't know how to progress.

I've gotten the two to become one, and now am looking between the lines. However, looking between the lines is totally escaping me. I've tried looking at the arrangements on the common object they are based on, but that hasn't helped me at all. (there are no patterns I can discern)

These letters just don't seem to make sense. :( And it seems like this isn't a particularly challenging section of 14., but I haven't been able to crack it yet.

Any help would be appreciated, PM or otherwise.
Xanax - 2010-10-24, 20:42
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It's not a coincidence that this part comes after the first one... ;)
Hydrazine - 2010-10-25, 00:42
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Ok, so with that hint, I THINK I know what to I need do, but I don't know what to do it on...

The strings of letters themselves, or the lines that they make on the object that they are based on?

Or neither? Have I just missed something totally obvious that everyone else has seen? From reading the thread, people either have no idea where to start (stuck at first page), or are much further along.



EDIT: JUST GOT TO 14..

Wow... ok, for those who are stuck like me: Here's a few (hopefully non-spoily) hints.

1: Think simple
2: Go downstairs
3: Between the lines is a hint, but maybe not in the way that you think it is.

If you are using scratch sheets of paper and drawing pictures and lines, then you are WAY over-thinking this. Trust me. :)

Now on to 14.. This one will be tough as well I think.
Beezqp - 2010-10-27, 00:30
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Quote:
Now on to 14.. This one will be tough as well I think.

:mrgreen:
Hydrazine - 2010-10-27, 22:38
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Beezqp wrote:
Quote:
Now on to 14.. This one will be tough as well I think.

:mrgreen:


Surprisingly, 14.. 14... and 14.... weren't that challenging. I've now moved on to CHAPTER 2!!!
gemgembabes - 2010-11-30, 01:11
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phewwwwwwwwww lvl 14.... DONE
*pats herself on the back, with a big smile
:mrgreen:
sigh
whats that horrible noise..... oh thats 15.............
Tinko - 2012-11-23, 22:24
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on the 3 picture with keyhole there are some letters = letters

is that an anagram
?

I don't know what to do with that letters
Mongoose - 2012-11-23, 22:43
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Tinko wrote:
on the 3 picture with keyhole there are some letters = letters

is that an anagram
?

I don't know what to do with that letters


Just take it literally... And if it doesn't work immediately, try it elsewhere.
Tinko - 2012-11-24, 00:22
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ok I got the 4th picture, TP, and 4 numbers

what now?
any hint will be helpful

finally I now what TP is
:D
Beezqp - 2012-11-24, 08:34
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Now use the key to open the door. Easy.

There should be more numbers.
Tinko - 2012-11-24, 17:47
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I translated one word witch can be found under 2 pictures and with door txt using number sequence. The word is f***
I'm I on right track?
Do I need one more word with this one to have final solution

I got an idea to translate this word with hint key => TP, door => ****
Beezqp - 2012-11-24, 17:54
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Quote:
The word is f***

You mean "fuck"?
Beezqp - 2012-11-24, 17:55
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Jokin, you are doing right thing. Just, as i said, there should be more numbers.
Tinko - 2012-11-24, 17:55
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No I mean ---. Word ---1 3 4 6 equals ---
Beezqp - 2012-11-24, 18:32
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how come :o
Tinko - 2012-11-24, 20:22
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I did it
This is the best level so far
:D
Beezqp - 2012-11-24, 20:53
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you've seen so little my friend
Curoun - 2013-12-19, 18:50
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Currently stuck in 14.... , so i need to use some PowerOfPosting™. Got the TP, got the key, got the hint page. Am i supposed to use the --- or is there anything else i need? Discarding TP from the text doesn't help much...
Beezqp - 2013-12-19, 18:53
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Did you try doing what you just described? Not sure if I got what you wanted to mean, but for me it sounded like solution.
Curoun - 2013-12-19, 19:02
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Whoa. The power. Well, actually the power of erasing spoilers :D No, i actually didn't because i was looking at the part, not at the whole and was missing a thing ;) Thanks a lot, chapter II begins.
chortle - 2013-12-25, 00:07
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Five years ago I got to level 20 in IH. I remembered how to solve the first step, which was good. This week totally stuck on final step in Level 14. WHY didn't I keep my notes? WHY? WHY?

Merry Christmas all.
Torcida - 2013-12-26, 11:46
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in 14... level with those letters you can make all kinds of chaos, but nothing seems to work...Beezqp is one evil guy... ;)
puzzle - 2013-12-26, 13:21
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That's my favourite and it's pretty challenging. You can PM me with what you have.
chortle - 2013-12-26, 20:10
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Finally. Last step was brutal, or I was extra dense. Thanks to all! On to level 15.
Torcida - 2013-12-26, 20:43
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i'm still stuck..i think i got the first word but now nothing does not make sense...i'm tired probably...over 14 hours spent on this as they say gay step.. :evil:
chortle - 2013-12-26, 21:19
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Last step is totally logical.

I pmed you.
Torcida - 2013-12-26, 21:42
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i hope i will find the last step...al those numbers and letters that does not make any sense to me...I noticed that the key has something inportant in it, and i know that is not by accident..and i started to mark those letters with numbers and started to applaying them all around the place..al i got is F***....and that is about it...am i suppose to applay them somewhere else or should i stick to my guts...maybe i'll sleep on it
Beezqp - 2013-12-26, 22:45
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Quote:
al i got is F***

This sounds very frustrated.
Muzozavr - 2013-12-26, 22:48
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Torcida wrote:
i hope i will find the last step...al those numbers and letters that does not make any sense to me...I noticed that the key has something inportant in it, and i know that is not by accident..and i started to mark those letters with numbers and started to applaying them all around the place..al i got is F***....and that is about it...am i suppose to applay them somewhere else or should i stick to my guts...maybe i'll sleep on it

You've only got the first word because your key isn't complete yet... it should lead to --- (you will burn, Muzo), sorry, you were quoting "TP" over and over, so I thought the full form is allowed but it's incomplete... so complete it, then you can go back and do the right thing.
chortle - 2013-12-26, 23:05
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The evil one feeds on frustration!
Luthorien - 2013-12-27, 01:26
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Could anyone check what I have after 14.... via PM, please?
Tynka - 2013-12-27, 01:28
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Hi Luth :) welcome in Hell...
PM me if you want to check your result
Luthorien - 2013-12-27, 02:01
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Thank you!! This seems very good so far!!
PM is on its way ;)

EDIT: and solved it, thank you so much Tynka! I missed that was the last step lol
Msynn - 2013-12-27, 13:38
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Stucked here... Got "all", I think... And still nothing :p All what I have written doesnt work. :evil:
vard - 2013-12-27, 14:12
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you need to be a little more specific if you want somebody to help you. Try PMing somebody with what you already have, they'll tell you if you're going the right direction.
Muzozavr - 2013-12-27, 14:14
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If your key is complete and leads to the right place, then USE the key on the door. The result will be the answer.
Msynn - 2013-12-27, 14:19
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I can't find right door I think *_* I think it's text - ye ? But which one... That's my problem. Or I have wrong key. Who want 2 help me on "PM channel" ? :idea:

One thing: I don't have "4e/4....." - only 4 dots. So mby here's my problem ? Is there smth like that ?
vard - 2013-12-27, 14:23
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feel free to pm.
Msynn - 2013-12-27, 14:25
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"On my way". PMed

Edit:
Done. I need more precision ;x
puzzle - 2013-12-27, 15:25
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It's quite weird that you have been given two words from .... for free, isn't it? There must be a way to obtain it somehow and find the method to apply.
Torin13 - 2015-05-20, 23:32
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Ok, so I'm completely lost. I made it to 14...., but I don't have TP, or numbers, or any x's or y's, and it seems that everybody else does. Did I overlook something?

Edit: Found ThE, and the numbers. Will start trying it with the key

Edit 2: Solved it!
Fredjer - 2015-09-21, 00:14
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Hey

Im stuck at 14... (three dots). I can see the key on the picture. Letter = Letter.
I did convert a word that i used on earlier steps, but i dont understand where to use this word.
I have an idea of what to do with x's and y's but im not sure how to do it.
And i dont really have any clue what everyone means with TP?
I also feel like im missing something from step 14..(two dots). The text on the door must mean something?

Most annoying part is that i did this level 3-4 years ago. Hope i can make it through this hell alive for the second time!

Can i PM anyone to get on track?
Xanax - 2015-09-21, 17:52
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It seems that you have done something wrong on 14...
Send me a PM.
Fredjer - 2015-09-21, 20:15
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PM sent
103rdwhatever - 2016-01-16, 20:43
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Aergh! I'm stuck on 14.. and can't find anything to get me pointed in the right direction! Everyone just seems to have figured that part out... are my efforts in vain? Are the words beneath the handle useful? Is this puzzle still image-manip based, or will I have to use more text analysis? Halp, please!
Xanax - 2016-01-19, 00:18
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So you haven't been to 14... yet? If that's the case then all you have to do now is to be a little more curious. ;)
103rdwhatever - 2016-01-19, 05:00
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Oh! Okay, yeah, just keep trying then. Got it! Now for the fun part...

Edit: Now i'm stuck again, got the = bit from 14... and have been trying to apply with everything I can find but aint getting anything intelligible. Besides some naughty syllables, that seem like they should work (but don't), from a previous progression point. :|

Edit2: Nvrmnd on the naughty, naughty syllables, they were a mistake... Mixed up two adjacent letters...

Edit3: Yep, I don't have any idea where to put this =... Ive tried applying it forewards and backwards to any text i can find.- Power of posting, figured it out while making this edit. :>
emperor_of_dust - 2016-01-28, 02:50
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Return to .. and ask yourself a question - where am I?
Hydrazine - 2016-02-07, 04:36
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I recently started playing again and have been whizzing through the first couple levels since I know them so well. And most definitely got stuck on 14....

I had been wracking my brain for a long time and finally decided to come to the forum to see if I could grab any hints from you all.


After perusing through 8 pages and not getting anywhere, I found myself staring at a post from myself:

Hydrazine in 2010 wrote:
Surprisingly, 14.. 14... and 14.... weren't that challenging. I've now moved on to CHAPTER 2!!!



CURSE my more intelligent self from 6 years ago who could figure this out with no problem. Fortunately I was able to get it eventually, but it was kinda funny that I didn't have any issues with that part all those years ago. I still love this puzzle.
HTD-Reptile - 2016-06-26, 05:47
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Been trying to figure out 14... (three dots) for a while.
I found the letters=letters hint, I just don't know what to apply it to.
I still don't know what 'TP' is or what to do with 'xxxyyyyy.xxx'

Everyone seemed to figure this part out quickly, so maybe I'm missing something obvious...?

Any advice?
Muzozavr - 2016-06-26, 09:54
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IIRC, if you're on three dots, you have not found TP yet.

You have probably tried something very obvious with the letters=letters hint already, but got 404. That's because you didn't use the other hint you've mentioned. It tells you what not to change.

(idk, maybe this is almost too clear, but it's difficult to hint that part, it really is kinda obvious)
HTD-Reptile - 2016-06-26, 14:05
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Muzozavr wrote:
IIRC, if you're on three dots, you have not found TP yet.

You have probably tried something very obvious with the letters=letters hint already, but got 404. That's because you didn't use the other hint you've mentioned. It tells you what not to change.

(idk, maybe this is almost too clear, but it's difficult to hint that part, it really is kinda obvious)

Got it, thanks. Now I feel stupid.
I'd actually tried using the hint like that in the past, I just did it the wrong way around. :roll:

EDIT: Solved the entirety of 14 and moved on to chapter two. Christ, that last step was hard.
PegasuS - 2016-09-11, 05:05
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Hi everyone, i'm stuck at level 14 right now. Not a single clue. I've already know that I must see which is not reflects in a mirror. But it's very confuse to me. I got "APE" letters so far.
Pls help :D
kwebbel - 2016-09-11, 18:15
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Hi PegasuS,

PM me what you've got and I'll try to help.
Flamazide - 2016-10-04, 10:13
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I'm trying to solve this riddle with a friend. I don't have the graphic altering programs he does so we help each other with these. We are both completely stuck on this level.

I've read through a few of the messages here and apparently this has 3 parts to it, but we have no clue what to do on the first segment. Any hints would be greatly appreciated.
Anklejbiter - 2017-09-06, 20:34
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Hi, everybody. I'm currently stuck at the block of text. I used pixlr (only because I don't have mspaint on my chromebook) to 'do stuff' to the original image, and found the word it gave me, and that's all so far. I can't figure out what between the lines or go downstairs means or how to staircase-ify the block of text, And I think I'm doing something wrong. Can I get some help other than the ten pages of "Read between the lines" and "go downstairs" Because that doesn't help me at all.
lla26 - 2017-09-07, 02:37
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Anklejbiter wrote:
Hi, everybody. I'm currently stuck at the block of text. I used pixlr (only because I don't have mspaint on my chromebook) to 'do stuff' to the original image, and found the word it gave me, and that's all so far. I can't figure out what between the lines or go downstairs means or how to staircase-ify the block of text, And I think I'm doing something wrong. Can I get some help other than the ten pages of "Read between the lines" and "go downstairs" Because that doesn't help me at all.
No editing needed. Original image is a good hint itself.

PM me if you need more help. I can't help anymore without giving spoilers.
Lassaaire - 2018-07-20, 21:22
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Hi everybody!
Im stuck 2 months. I found 14... , i see the transposition key near keyhole. I even got words that more or less makes sense. But thats all, I dont know neither xxxyyyyy nor TP.
Can someone PM me?
VisD - 2018-07-21, 11:43
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pm me exactly what you have/know, i'll help ;)
night - 2019-08-03, 08:28
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Hi,

I found that TP that everyone here is talking about. And the source for TP. I tried something that relates key and TP, but I can't seem to progress more. I would like to ask some help.

Thanks!
lla26 - 2019-08-03, 09:47
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night wrote:
Hi,

I found that TP that everyone here is talking about. And the source for TP. I tried something that relates key and TP, but I can't seem to progress more. I would like to ask some help.

Thanks!
IIRC, you have to use something. This “something” is related to the key and TP.
night - 2019-08-03, 14:41
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That something is what I am trying to see. Maybe I am using another "something" that isn't related at all. Is there someone available via pm?
lla26 - 2019-08-03, 18:32
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night wrote:
That something is what I am trying to see. Maybe I am using another "something" that isn't related at all. Is there someone available via pm?
PM me about this “something” you found.
night - 2019-08-04, 11:30
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I sent you a message. Thank you!